If it is OK with the group, we will cover more pages of reading, (chapters 10-18) for this week. That way we can move ahead quicker in our discoveries in this novel. I bet Ray has already past these chapters :)
Your comments are due Monday, September 5.
Chapter 10
One of the most creative writing inventions Pamuk employes in My Name is Red is to write chapters of the story from the point of view of inanimate objects. In chapter 10 "I am a Tree", Pamuk explores what a tree from an illuminated page has to think and say. The image of the tree has been separated from it's book and is now alone.
Do you think this has caused the tree to lose or to expand it's meaning?
Chapter 11
Black meets Master Osman and they discussed how the Venetian style differs from the Islamic illuminations. They also talk about how the Islamic illuminations are changing.
Can you list a couple of those changes?
Black asks Master Osman what "separates the genuine miniaturist from the ordinary" (p.60)
Master Osman replies that to determine this, he would ask a painter three questions. Black is going to use those questions to interrogate the miniaturists to help him identify Elegant's murderer.
What are those questions?
There is an important discussion in this chapter about blindness. Master Osman tells Black that "blindness is silence" and "it's the farthest one can go in illustrating: it is seeing what appears out of Allah's own blackness." (p 60) In chapter 14 (p80) Pamuk tells us that an artist that is blind paints by memory and is not distracted by the world.
Do you think blindness would make an artist better? Answer this question after you have reviewed the following 2 outside sources:
1) A video about a remarkable blind painter from Turkey.....Esref Armagan
http://www.armagan.com/
2) The story of a painter, Benodebehari Mukherjee, helps us explore the concept of whether blindness is a virtue and can make an artist better
http://humanitiesunderground.wordpress.com/2011/01/20/the-blind-art-of-the-concrete/
Some of the artwork of Mr. Mukherjee can be viewed here:
http://www.artfact.com/artist/mukherjee-benode-behari-jsudm51tks
Chapters 12, 13, 14
In these chapters, Black visits the three miniaturists (Butterfly, Stork and Olive) and poses the questions Master Osman has suggested. He uses the questions as a ploy to observe the painters to pick up any signs of guilt of Elegant's murder. All three miniaturists are on to Black's motive for visiting them.
Butterfly answers Black's question about style and signature. He also boasts he is the best painter because he earns the most money (p68) and also that he didn't murder Elegant ( 66). But he also says he feels like lowering an inkpot onto the skull of this buffoon Black for suspecting him of Elegant's murder.
Stork answers Black's question about painting and time. Stork tells Black a tale with the moral that "time ends for the one who forsakes the perfect life and perfect illuminating leaving nothing but death." (p75)
Olive answers Black's question about blindness and memory. One of Olive's stories (p79) reveals some of the "eternal anxieties about going blind shared by all miniaturists."
Can you list some of these anxieties and the conditions that caused these anxieties?
Chapter 15
In this chapter Esther heightens the drama of the love triangle between Shekure, Black and Hasan.
How does Esther stir things up?
In this male dominated society, it would appear that a women holds power over men the most when she is desirable for marriage.
Do you think this might be a reason Shekure is playing Black and Hasan against each other?
Chapter 16
We learn more about Shekure's thnking. She tells us: "It wasn't aging, losing one's beauty or even being bereft of usband and money that was the worst of all calamities. (p87)
What does Shejkure is more horrible?
Enishte is afraid Shekure will divorce, remarry and abandon him. He is also afraid he too will be murdered.
Chapter 17
Enishte goes to Elegant's funeral with the knowledge that Elegant's murder is present there.
At the funeral he talks with Olive, Stork and Butterfly. He recalls Stork criticizing Elegant's gilding work as being inferior (p92). He notes that Olive was the "one who most believed in my book. (p92). He has a fiery discussion with Butterfly in which Butterfly accuses Olive and Stork with starting rumors that he is the murderer because he had bad relations with Elegant. (p93) Looking into Elegant's grave Enishte again fears his own demise.
Why do you think Enishte tells Butterfly to let the others know that he is calling off the project of the secret book?
At this point in the story, who do you think the murder is?
Resources for optional discovery
An interesting history of gold coins:
http://www.nationalcoinbrokers.com/rarecoins/gold-in-your-ira/history-of-gold-coins/
Author Pamuk describes some of the paintings referred to in "My Name is Red"
http://www.randomhouse.com/knopf/authors/pamuk/desktop1.html